Sobering

"boredalways" (boredalway666) 03/23/2020 at 12:37 • Filed to: Muck Fonday, covid-19, Spanish flu, 1918 Pandemic, Lessons ignored, Morality rates, SciShow, John Hopkins University

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The other day I came across this SciShow video from a couple of years ago — no shock to learn that governments haven’t learned the lesson.

Of course by now, we are more familiar with the 1918 Pandemic (depending on your preferred sources of valid information).

And so t hey say that the mortality rate worldwide from the flu is 0.1% annually.

If my maths are correct, Covid-19 is tracking about 4.4%.

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That is just gut wenching.

To your families and friends, please be  safe.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > boredalways 03/23/2020 at 12:54

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Yeah people like drumpf keep calling this unprecedented.... um no it’s not! 

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 03/23/2020 at 12:59

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Well obviously only history since Drumpf’s birth is real. Everything before that is just fake news. 

ranwhenparked > boredalways 03/23/2020 at 13:01

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The mortality rate so far is skewed, since that’s just out of the people who have been diagnosed via a test, and right now, tests are being rationed to mostly people who have obvious symptoms. And they’re saying that a lot of people don’t even get symptoms.

As with all things, there's also a range. Seasonal flu might be 0.1 overall, but it can be as high as 8% when it sweeps through a nursing home. 

functionoverfashion > ranwhenparked 03/23/2020 at 13:05

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You’re right about the undiagnosed / untested / unconfirmed numbers being low. And I can’t decide if that makes me feel better or worse. 

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > boredalways 03/23/2020 at 13:10

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I find it odd how wildly different the mortality  rate seems to be from country to country. I won’t speculate as to why, just note that establishing a factual mortality rate won't happen for a while. Possibly years from now.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ranwhenparked 03/23/2020 at 13:14

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Assuming the claim that 20% of people are severe enough to be hospitalized then it could be a pretty good estimate to say that we are only reporting about a fifth of the actual cases. If that is true, the mortality rate drops to 0.88%...which is still almost 9x as deadly as the normal flu.

boredalways > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 03/23/2020 at 13:16

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Very true, especially with countries purposely underreporting including our own.

ranwhenparked > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/23/2020 at 13:17

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Well, yeah, nobody said it wasn't serious, that's why we just turned off the whole planet

fintail > boredalways 03/23/2020 at 13:18

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And if anyone believes anything from the PRC, well, good luck with that.

I suspect it is twice as bad as reported.

fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 03/23/2020 at 13:19

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*unpresidented

Thisismydisplayname > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 03/23/2020 at 13:27

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From what Blossom says, this is all too similar to the 1918 pandemic.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > fintail 03/23/2020 at 13:28

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Well it’s a really unprecedented, I’m told nobody has ever seen anything like this before, this Chinese virus. I wish China had told us earlier so we could deny anything was wrong earlier! Maybe we could have fired a few more experts before this happened, I give myself a 10/10, we inherited an archaic system from Obama! But we fixed it and people are telling me it’s the best system they have ever seen. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > fintail 03/23/2020 at 13:29

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North Korea is probably just executing people

fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 03/23/2020 at 13:35

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Keeps the numbers down.

fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 03/23/2020 at 13:39

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It’s hard to do anything when this is really a political hoax and not anything different than the common flu.

I am honestly surprised DeVos, Perdue, and Javanka aren’ t in charge of everything.

I have no doubt US data is under-reported too, due to so many having a lack of healthcare, and no doubt coroners not wishing to get in too deep.

ranwhenparked > fintail 03/23/2020 at 14:18

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Wouldnt surprise me. Their protege North Korea is being pretty tight lipped, too. Started rapid construction on several new hospitals, but stated that they are part of a pre planned expansion of their healthcare system, and not for COVID 19, because they don't have a significant COVID 19 problem.

BigBlock440 > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 03/23/2020 at 15:28

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fintail > ranwhenparked 03/23/2020 at 15:28

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It’s just a coincidence! Nothing to see here! Would anyone like a bat ‘n cheese sandwich?

For as crooked as things are here, we are angels compared to certain others.

ranwhenparked > fintail 03/23/2020 at 15:47

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We’re not the ones who destroyed blood samples of the first patients to prevent testing, or made a well known business leader mysteriously  disappear after criticizing the government’s response.

fintail > ranwhenparked 03/23/2020 at 16:10

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Not to mention the general history of a lack of anything close to ethics or valuing human life.

Double or triple any of the negative results coming from the kleptocracy.  I’d expect suspicious results from Russia, too.

Future next gen S2000 owner > boredalways 03/23/2020 at 16:15

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That’s even with advanced medical treatment. Consider what it would have been like 100 years ago.

I’m locked in my house with toddlers.....not sure what is worse.

ranwhenparked > fintail 03/23/2020 at 16:21

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There’s been plenty of failings around the world, but the Chinese Communist Party really needs to be held to atone for this. Not just for the world, but for what its done to their own people, as well. Telling them it couldn’t be transmitted person to person for 3 weeks after the lab confirmed it could, letting that 50,000 family new year celebration in Wuhan go on even when the outbreak was fully known, etc. They cared more about controlling the spread of information than controlling the spread of the virus, at least in the crucial early days. They did get serious in a big way when it got totally out of the bag, though.

But, the truth is, it could have been effectively  stopped much sooner if they were less concerned about secrecy and their own power. 

fintail > ranwhenparked 03/23/2020 at 18:12

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There’s a difference between failing due to lack of preparation, and failing via deception. The latter is far more damning, and that’s what they’ve done. Makes our shitty leaders look like actual dignitaries.

Then again, the CCP should be held accountable for its past 70 years of social and environmental horror, with a death toll that would make the nazis and stalinists envious. And the best part is its corrupt lickspittle paper-pushers then escape and use Seattle and Vancouver (among other places) real estate as residency anchors and capital hiding vehicles, and our governments are complicit at best, if not encouraging it.

boredalways > Future next gen S2000 owner 03/23/2020 at 18:21

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I would assume locked in you home alone would be pretty close. Luckily, I have a cat...that tries to use me as a physical climbing wall about every 4 hours.

ranwhenparked > fintail 03/23/2020 at 18:27

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I think I mentioned an elderly customer a few weeks ago who told me that he thought all this was ultimately Richard Nixon’s fault, pretty sure that’s what he was getting at. Or else, he’s just still really bitter about Watergate. 

fintail > ranwhenparked 03/23/2020 at 18:32

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Nixon and likely Kissinger (how is that evil POS still alive?) were a big part of opening that Pandora’s Box, definitely.

Future next gen S2000 owner > boredalways 03/23/2020 at 18:37

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My in-laws had a cat that used my legs as a teeth sharpening device when we would visit them. Then try to fluff my lap with her claws prior to claiming her new seat.

Cats are.......I’m a dog person.